Curse

upier · Mar 14, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

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That's why I am trying to tell you.
The effect of the skill warrants it's elite status - compared to other skills that have a similar effect.
But that still doesn't change the fact that the effect isn't as good as the effect of some other elites - and that's why the elite is shun.
Same thing with something like Extend Conditions.

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

MAYBE if target foe dies the skills revert, however thats a minor change and really wouldnt make much difference, just allowing you to interupt earlier again, which is again a buff.

What this causes is that one can use the primary effect of this skill - the disabling of a skill on the target foes skillbar effectively in PvE. Stuff dies way to fast to make a skill that steals a skill for 20+ secs even viable. The foe was punished and in PvE the foe is hurt by that even more because of the lacking builds - but once the foe dies, you are still stuck with the stolen skill.
So currently AL/AT are MUCH better in builds that have next to 0 investment in dom.

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

0 Recharge would be a stupid buff, not making the skill any more useful, just allowing you to spam it more. Interupts shouldn't be spammed, but should take out key skills.

Interrupts should be spammed in PvE. So by removing the recharge the skill becomes insane in PvE.
Where as in PvP you already have the effect you want. ST takes out a key skill. And not JUST interrupts it - but REALLY takes it out.

Am I saying that your change is bad?
No. It would really make the skill better.
What I am saying though is if you look at the skills that are currently in the game - you can already see that ST does not need a buff because it currently is already elite worthy.
It's just not worth using.

Lishy · Mar 14, 2008, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by upier

Interrupts should be spammed in PvE. So by removing the recharge the skill becomes insane in PvE.

16 illusion magic+13 fast casting+0 domination=GG
Fill your bar with overpowered illusion skills for aoe armor ignoring damage and the most spammable interupt in the game=Simple thievery with 0 domination magic :P
But why the domination line?I think it should be inspiration.But thats a personal opinion.

Terraban · Mar 14, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

16 illusion magic+13 fast casting+0 domination=GG
Fill your bar with overpowered illusion skills for aoe armor ignoring damage and the most spammable interupt in the game=Simple thievery with 0 domination magic :P
But why the domination line?I think it should be inspiration.But thats a personal opinion.

Or just take Power Return and use an actual elite.

upier · Mar 14, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Or just take Power Return and use an actual elite.

The reason why ST would be so godly is because it interrupts everything - which is pretty darn crucial in a game with "monster skills".

Bowstring Badass · Mar 15, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Signet of Illusion
Arcane Thievery
Arcane Larceny
Diversion
Power Leak
Power Drain
Optional
Optional

There do I win?

weretoad · Mar 27, 2008, 09:43 PM // 21:43

blackout is a fine shutdown skill, and i don't think messing with other peoples bar should be generalized.